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Synchronous Oscillations and the Emperor's New Clothes

The One and the Many

Keith Sutherland

Pat Hayes:

This would seem to me to be entirely question-begging. Given Bernie's theory requires multiple cortical self-systems, then why are there not multiple memories (this would surely be more logical). What is this "individual" anyway? And, given the multiplicity of creation, why does the number *one* seem to be in a league of its own? (Answer: because there's only one *me* [but then you're back where you started].)

I've waded through the rest of the post several times but, compared to the simple elegance of Schroedinger's position, this sort of explanation strikes me as the ultimate violation of Occam's razor. Why invoke such tortuous complexity to explain something so simple? But I don't want to sound cavalier so here goes:

This is an equally circular argument, as its starting point is the "individual itself".

The model you suggest sounds (as is appropriate with digital architectures) like discrete systems switching in and out. But this is really not our experience of consciousness at all. Bernie mentions the "appetitive self-system". Well, my experience is I get hungry, I get horny, but its the same me! And its not a rapid oscillation between different systems switching in and out. And these systems don't compete in a winner-takes-all fashion, they overlap and modulate each other.

Pat's model may approximate to some wild guess as to how the brain might, perhaps, work, but seems to play fast and loose with the one thing we do know -- our own conscious experience.

Keith Sutherland
keith@imprint.co.uk


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